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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 14, 2022 10:57:41 GMT
The AR8SE actually has really good handling... Combined with its excellent nitro efficiency, I was able to shave off one-third of a second from its lap-time on Cloud Nine.
The AR8SE lacks acceleration in comparison to certain other cars in the D1230 rank bracket.
The AR8SE's drifting was nerfed when it was reshuffled; it used to have alien drifting, now just average. This has also happened to several other reshuffled cars, such as the RX-8 SE, the Sagaris SE, the Fenyr, the Hussarya, the two Rezvanis, etc.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 14, 2022 12:51:29 GMT
The SLK 55 AMG is now coming third, after the M3 Sedan and AR8SE, with a lap-time of 1:25:370 non-boosted. ( scr408)
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 15, 2022 15:14:10 GMT
I've finally achieved a lap-time with the Corvette C3 that I consider to be within alien range... This was extremely difficult, and it still doesn't even come close to the M3 Sedan's best run, which took me much fewer attempts to achieve. - Ronan | 1:25:469 | Non-boosted | Chevrolet Corvette C3 | D1229
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 15, 2022 15:53:57 GMT
I've finally broken the 1:26:XXX barrier with the Furai... - Ronan | 1:25:964 | Non-boosted | Mazda Furai | D1230
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 15, 2022 16:23:57 GMT
Significant improvement to my M1's lap-time... - Ronan | 1:25:617 | Non-boosted | BMW M1 | D1228
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Post by oldman65 on Jan 16, 2022 0:42:00 GMT
Interesting that the “Ultimate” cars are among the poorest performers in these tests. 😔
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 16, 2022 5:54:14 GMT
Interesting that the “Ultimate” cars are among the poorest performers in these tests. 😔 When the Mazda Furai was reshuffled to D1230, being the first of many, I was initially ecstatic about the results... They had buffed its nitro efficiency from terrible to good, which was already good enough in my view at the time. However, all of the subsequent cars that were reshuffled to D1230 ended up receiving new nitro efficiencies that were either alien or close to that, leaving the Furai as the least nitro-efficient car of the bunch... I mean, the Furai's nitro efficiency isn't bad, but it just can't compete with the numerous aliens within the D1230 rank bracket. Meanwhile, the Chevrolet Corvette C3 has always had bad handling and drifting... its handling+drifting was a lot worse when it was in Class A as opposed to Class D. When it was reshuffled to Class D, its handling+drifting was significantly improved, mainly due to the significant loss of speed. However, apparently, its handling+drifting is still not good enough... It's essentially the second-worst-handling+drifting car in the D1230 rank bracket after the Infiniti FX50. The Corvette C3 does have the best raw top speed in the D1230 rank bracket, and I believe it has the tied-second-best acceleration after the Infiniti FX50 (tied with the BMW M3 Sedan, Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG, etc, at 2.4 seconds; the FX50 is 2.2 seconds whereas many other D1230 cars are 2.5 seconds), but these stats are apparently not enough to compensate for its poor handling+drifting on the rugged terrain of Cloud Nine. The Furai's relatively mediocre performance can be attributed to its being a free car; tens of thousands of people were given a free, fully-upgraded Furai for Christmas of 2020, so it was never going to be a top contender. The Corvette C3 doesn't have mediocre performance in terms of its acceleration and nitro efficiency, but it just has poor handling+drifting... Nonetheless, the Corvette C3 is one of the cheapest cars in the D1230 rank bracket since it can be purchased for just 1,000,000 Credits with all upgrades automatically applied... The Corvette C3 doesn't require any Fusion Coins in its upgrades, unlike all other D1230 cars apart from the Furai. So, the Corvette C3's cheap price is perhaps also responsible for its suboptimal performance, a la the Furai.
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Post by oldman65 on Jan 16, 2022 14:18:33 GMT
Interesting that the “Ultimate” cars are among the poorest performers in these tests. 😔 When the Mazda Furai was reshuffled to D1230, being the first of many, I was initially ecstatic about the results... They had buffed its nitro efficiency from terrible to good, which was already good enough in my view at the time. However, all of the subsequent cars that were reshuffled to D1230 ended up receiving new nitro efficiencies that were either alien or close to that, leaving the Furai as the least nitro-efficient car of the bunch... I mean, the Furai's nitro efficiency isn't bad, but it just can't compete with the numerous aliens within the D1230 rank bracket. Meanwhile, the Chevrolet Corvette C3 has always had bad handling and drifting... its handling+drifting was a lot worse when it was in Class A as opposed to Class D. When it was reshuffled to Class D, its handling+drifting was significantly improved, mainly due to the significant loss of speed. However, apparently, its handling+drifting is still not good enough... It's essentially the second-worst-handling+drifting car in the D1230 rank bracket after the Infiniti FX50. The Corvette C3 does have the best raw top speed in the D1230 rank bracket, and I believe it has the tied-second-best acceleration after the Infiniti FX50 (tied with the BMW M3 Sedan, Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG, etc, at 2.4 seconds; the FX50 is 2.2 seconds whereas many other D1230 cars are 2.5 seconds), but these stats are apparently not enough to compensate for its poor handling+drifting on the rugged terrain of Cloud Nine. The Furai's relatively mediocre performance can be attributed to its being a free car; tens of thousands of people were given a free, fully-upgraded Furai for Christmas of 2020, so it was never going to be a top contender. The Corvette C3 doesn't have mediocre performance in terms of its acceleration and nitro efficiency, but it just has poor handling+drifting... Nonetheless, the Corvette C3 is one of the cheapest cars in the D1230 rank bracket since it can be purchased for just 1,000,000 Credits with all upgrades automatically applied... The Corvette C3 doesn't require any Fusion Coins in its upgrades, unlike all other D1230 cars apart from the Furai. So, the Corvette C3's cheap price is perhaps also responsible for its suboptimal performance, a la the Furai. I agree with your analysis. This game hasn’t treated my favorite cars very well. 😜 And I just haven’t been impressed with “Ultimate” cars in general. Only the ones at the very top ranks are worth owning. The rest are simply collectors for nuts like me who like a brand or just want to have as many cars as possible. Personally, I don’t own the 1862 Ultimate trio. Those are good, but the price is too high for me. So, I have only the Agera RS and Arash that are somewhat useful. Still, they are not “Ultimate” in my eyes. There are many better cars at their ranks. I’m totally underwhelmed by Ultimate cars. They are either average to poor or far too expensive acquire. Switching back to topic. Glad to see the SE cars that were nerfed at least continuing to be relevant. They did lose many of their advantages, but unlike the so called “Ultimate” cars at this rank group, the are still competitive. 👍
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 16, 2022 14:59:27 GMT
When the Mazda Furai was reshuffled to D1230, being the first of many, I was initially ecstatic about the results... They had buffed its nitro efficiency from terrible to good, which was already good enough in my view at the time. However, all of the subsequent cars that were reshuffled to D1230 ended up receiving new nitro efficiencies that were either alien or close to that, leaving the Furai as the least nitro-efficient car of the bunch... I mean, the Furai's nitro efficiency isn't bad, but it just can't compete with the numerous aliens within the D1230 rank bracket. Meanwhile, the Chevrolet Corvette C3 has always had bad handling and drifting... its handling+drifting was a lot worse when it was in Class A as opposed to Class D. When it was reshuffled to Class D, its handling+drifting was significantly improved, mainly due to the significant loss of speed. However, apparently, its handling+drifting is still not good enough... It's essentially the second-worst-handling+drifting car in the D1230 rank bracket after the Infiniti FX50. The Corvette C3 does have the best raw top speed in the D1230 rank bracket, and I believe it has the tied-second-best acceleration after the Infiniti FX50 (tied with the BMW M3 Sedan, Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG, etc, at 2.4 seconds; the FX50 is 2.2 seconds whereas many other D1230 cars are 2.5 seconds), but these stats are apparently not enough to compensate for its poor handling+drifting on the rugged terrain of Cloud Nine. The Furai's relatively mediocre performance can be attributed to its being a free car; tens of thousands of people were given a free, fully-upgraded Furai for Christmas of 2020, so it was never going to be a top contender. The Corvette C3 doesn't have mediocre performance in terms of its acceleration and nitro efficiency, but it just has poor handling+drifting... Nonetheless, the Corvette C3 is one of the cheapest cars in the D1230 rank bracket since it can be purchased for just 1,000,000 Credits with all upgrades automatically applied... The Corvette C3 doesn't require any Fusion Coins in its upgrades, unlike all other D1230 cars apart from the Furai. So, the Corvette C3's cheap price is perhaps also responsible for its suboptimal performance, a la the Furai. I agree with your analysis. This game hasn’t treated my favorite cars very well. 😜 And I just haven’t been impressed with “Ultimate” cars in general. Only the ones at the very top ranks are worth owning. The rest are simply collectors for nuts like me who like a brand or just want to have as many cars as possible. Personally, I don’t own the 1862 Ultimate trio. Those are good, but the price is too high for me. So, I have only the Agera RS and Arash that are somewhat useful. Still, they are not “Ultimate” in my eyes. There are many better cars at their ranks. I’m totally underwhelmed by Ultimate cars. They are either average to poor or far too expensive acquire. Switching back to topic. Glad to see the SE cars that were nerfed at least continuing to be relevant. They did lose many of their advantages, but unlike the so called “Ultimate” cars at this rank group, the are still competitive. 👍 The most underperforming ULTIMATE car is the Koenigsegg Agera R, I would say; it is even worse than the Ferrari FXX Evoluzione. Meanwhile, the second-worst is probably the Hennessey Venom GT, what with its abysmal acceleration and unfortunate proximity to the A1770 spam rank bracket of fast-accelerating cars. On the other hand, the SSC Tuatara and SSC Ultimate Aero XT are both moderately useful, despite neither car being excellent; this is due to their relatively isolated ranks. Meanwhile, in high Class S, the Koenigsegg Agera RS and Arash AF10 actually are decently useful for Gauntlet mode as they possess certain strengths that other cars lack; the AF10's high raw top speed is very useful for lengthy tracks like Iceland and Azure Coast (bear in mind that my newly-acquired Bolide has still surprisingly been unable to dethrone the AF10 from several of these tracks), whereas the Agera RS' excellent handling and drifting come in handy on tracks like Orbital Loop and Terra 9, where the McLaren Senna already has its hands full (e.g. on Lunar Liftoff, I use the car order "Centenario, Jesko, Agera RS, Senna, LVN", with the Senna taking the spiral and the Agera RS taking a filler role). Regarding the SE cars in the D1230 rank bracket still being useful (AR8SE and RX8SE), well, this can be attributed to both of them having really good handling. Well, both of them had their drifting stat heavily nerfed, though they still retained relatively good handling (even though their handling stats were also nerfed slightly). This is especially advantageous for Cloud Nine since that track has a very difficult section towards the middle, the "tunnel" (cave), which requires exceptionally good handling+drifting to pass through quickly. The AR8SE also has exceptionally good nitro efficiency (even though it was nerfed slightly), whereas the RX8SE's nitro efficiency seems to be a bit weaker, though I don't have exact numbers yet. (Note: I'm sure that the RX8SE's nitro efficiency was buffed from its original NE at its original rank when it was reshuffled.) The Corvette C3 has faster acceleration than both the AR8SE and RX8SE, not to mention a higher raw top speed... It just suffers in the handling+drifting department.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jan 30, 2022 12:25:15 GMT
I've recently finished upgrading my Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG Special Edition... Previously, I had intentionally left it at 5555-5355 upgrades, rank D1312/1322. During the Blade SE Festival, when the SLK SE was still a Class S car (original class: top of Class A), I had upgraded the SLK SE to 5555-5353... Subsequently, when the SLK SE was nerfed to Class D, I finished off its exhaust upgrades in order to improve its acceleration, but I left its suspension at level 3 in order to keep the rank as low as I possibly could at that point; the Ariel Atom V8 can crush the SLK SE at any rank, but the bad matchmaking in the 1320 to 1350 ranks means that full-PRO Atoms are dominant all the way down to 1320 and perhaps even beyond that.
During the recent Skyline SE Festival, I've finally finished the SLK SE's suspension upgrades because I've accepted that I never actually used this car in Classic Multiplayer very much anyway when it was at 5555-5355 upgrades...
Regarding the SLK SE's performance, I must say, this car is still as much a boat as it has ever been... The handling and drifting of this car are still abysmal, and they are only partially mitigated by its snail-paced speed... In the ongoing Festival cup on Dubai Forward, I'm having incredible difficulty completing the 90-degree drift towards the middle of the track as well as the 180-degree drift at the end of the track.
The acceleration of the SLK SE is currently decent, I'll give it that, though it's not alien or anything. The nitro efficiency is certainly much-improved, which I'll take any day...
The SLK SE can be tuned low to prey on D1230 cars, but I'm not so sure that it actually can perform super well against these cars... The only advantage it has is speed, nothing else really.
In the ongoing SLK SE cup, my current position is 100... I'm sure to drop to the top-200 bracket by the end of the TLE in 24 hours from now.
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Post by alhazm300 on Feb 2, 2022 5:36:00 GMT
i have 2 cars can be upgrade to fit the new rank bracket...
1. porsche 959 2. infiniti fx50
which one is better option?
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Post by vb1236 on Feb 2, 2022 5:45:11 GMT
i have 2 cars can be upgrade to fit the new rank bracket... 1. porsche 959 2. infiniti fx50 which one is better option? I don't have porsche 959, but I have fx50 at MAX PRO. It is a great car if you can handle it.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Feb 2, 2022 12:52:58 GMT
i have 2 cars can be upgrade to fit the new rank bracket... 1. porsche 959 2. infiniti fx50 which one is better option? I don't have porsche 959, but I have fx50 at MAX PRO. It is a great car if you can handle it. (Tagging: alhazm300.) I concur with this advice from vb1236. The Porsche 959 is now a shell of what it once was. Among the D1230 crowd, it is certainly one of the weakest and least interesting cars, which is the opposite of what it used to be (it was once an extremely dominant king of World Series Multiplayer). The 959 of today lacks nitro efficiency and acceleration, two stats that are crucial for Classic MP and really just for any game mode. The 959's only advantage over its opponents is its slightly higher total top speed (it's the highest-ranked D1230 car, at D1232). The 959's handling and drifting are decent or above average, but there are competitors with just as decent if not better handling+drifting. On the other hand, the Infiniti FX50 stands out among the D1230 crowd in that it has the best acceleration and the best nitro efficiency by significant margins. The FX50 also stands out in that it's an absolute tank. It's massive, cumbersome, and very heavy. This lends it towards a certain type of play-style... It's almost like driving a monster truck among buggies in the late Asphalt Xtreme. The FX50 isn't necessarily the best D1230 car, but it's certainly able to stand on its own two feet. It's interesting enough to be worth noticing, and it also has some tricks up its sleeve that other cars simply can't match. So, for that reason, it's much more preferable to the 959, which has little to offer over other D1230 cars.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Feb 2, 2022 12:59:52 GMT
I've finished upgrading my Infiniti Project Black S Special Edition. I purchased the LNY upgrades bundle for AU $7.45... It provided 90,000 FuCs and x100 Kit Cards, which I thought was a good deal. I obtained the other remaining Kit Cards by converting Optimal Wild Cards.
From what I can tell, the Infiniti Project Black S is currently the king of the D1320 bracket. I haven't tested it out with boosters yet, but unboosted, it has perfectly acceptable handling and drifting, and its acceleration and nitro efficiency seem to be decent too. On the other hand, the SLK SE has terrible handling+drifting even at its current heavily-nerfed rank, so it's a write-off. The TVR Sagaris also lacks handling+drifting albeit not to the same extent as the SLK SE; from what I can tell, it's also highly inferior to the PBS SE. The only spam rank car that might be able to compete with the PBS SE is the BMW i8 Coupe, but it lacks acceleration. So, I think the PBS SE is probably better than the i8 Coupe, even though I haven't measured the stats of either car precisely. There are also other nearby cars that can perform well, including the Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2016 Veloce, Hot Wheels Rip Rod TM, Nissan Juke Nismo, Camaro Z/28, Lotus Elise Cup 260, Renault DeZir, DS 3 Racing, Peugeot RCZ R, etc.
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Post by alhazm300 on Feb 3, 2022 12:19:09 GMT
I don't have porsche 959, but I have fx50 at MAX PRO. It is a great car if you can handle it. (Tagging: alhazm300 .) I concur with this advice from vb1236 . The Porsche 959 is now a shell of what it once was. Among the D1230 crowd, it is certainly one of the weakest and least interesting cars, which is the opposite of what it used to be (it was once an extremely dominant king of World Series Multiplayer). The 959 of today lacks nitro efficiency and acceleration, two stats that are crucial for Classic MP and really just for any game mode. The 959's only advantage over its opponents is its slightly higher total top speed (it's the highest-ranked D1230 car, at D1232). The 959's handling and drifting are decent or above average, but there are competitors with just as decent if not better handling+drifting. On the other hand, the Infiniti FX50 stands out among the D1230 crowd in that it has the best acceleration and the best nitro efficiency by significant margins. The FX50 also stands out in that it's an absolute tank. It's massive, cumbersome, and very heavy. This lends it towards a certain type of play-style... It's almost like driving a monster truck among buggies in the late Asphalt Xtreme. The FX50 isn't necessarily the best D1230 car, but it's certainly able to stand on its own two feet. It's interesting enough to be worth noticing, and it also has some tricks up its sleeve that other cars simply can't match. So, for that reason, it's much more preferable to the 959, which has little to offer over other D1230 cars. well explained.. thanks a lot
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