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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jul 15, 2021 7:15:45 GMT
WoW, what's the secret behind your so successful gameplay. I mean, how are you able to pro most of the festival cars in such less time?? Do you PayToGL?!? I pay for cars but I also use my reserves. With Bugatti LVN, I went partway through the Festival and then finished the rest with Wild Cards. I only managed to test it out properly recently, after I finished upgrading it. EDIT: I am not participating with premium in Festivals for the foreseeable future. Festival cars that were "worth it": - Koenigsegg Jesko (from the Ferrari SF90 Stradale Festival, which was fairly easy to reach Tier 25 in, but hard to finish the SF90 Stradale itself; it took me around nine months to finish the SF90 Stradale's upgrades)
- McLaren Senna (easy to get from its own Festival, reliable and useful for a long time)
- Bugatti Divo (easy to get from its own Festival, reliable and useful since I finished upgrading it in early-2021)
- Koenigsegg Agera RS (I got it from the Ferrari F8 Tributo's Festival; it was much easier here than from the original Agera RS Festival)
Festival cars that are junk: - Mazzanti Evantra Millecavalli (completely useless)
- Aspark Owl (superseded by the Chiron, which was superseded by the Divo)
- Aston Martin Valhalla (completely useless)
- Bugatti Chiron (superseded by the Divo)
Festival cars that are on the fence: - Bugatti La Voiture Noire (not that great, despite being described as the best car ever added to the game)
- BXR Bailey Blade GT1 Special Edition (bad nitro efficiency, but otherwise a decent car)
Surprisingly, the Divo hasn't been superseded by the LVN. I'm still finding it to be useful. Sometimes, I prefer the Divo over the LVN. My resources are often very low. I usually spend them immediately, rather than save up a huge amount over a long period of time. I spend resources in order to get more resources.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jul 15, 2021 11:32:31 GMT
chauhan739 - The LVN isn't trash or anything... it's just situational. The Centenario/Sian duality and the Jesko are the three best cars in the game, based on their overall performances. On shorter tracks, the Centenario/Sian win out, whereas the Jesko wins out on longer tracks. It's pretty much essential for any player to have both the Centenario and Jesko in their account. The Sian is also very useful as a clone of the Centenario. The LVN has really good acceleration, better than the Divo's by a small margin, which itself is better than the Centenario's. Both the LVN and Divo are invaluable in Gauntlet mode as replacements for the Centenario as the starter car, in order to free up room for the Centenario to do its business later on in the track, at areas that require crazy handling, drifting, acceleration and nitro efficiency all at the same time. The Divo and the LVN have the crazy acceleration, better than the Centenario, as well as crazy nitro efficiency. However, both of them lack handling and drifting; not to the extent of the Aspark Owl or Rimac C_Two, for example, but still nowhere near as good as the Centenario and Jesko too (the Jesko has really good handling, as well as smooth drifting, but not as sharp as the Centenario's). Two other cars that are situationally only useful in Gauntlet mode, whilst being subpar in Multiplayer (now "World Series"), are the McLaren 600LT and 2018 McLaren X2. Both cars can't hold their own in a dogfight, but they have crazily good handling, making them very useful for certain portions of various tracks in Gauntlet mode. For example, the X2 is better than the Centenario at the beginning of The King's Highway (Transylvania). The Ferrari FXX K also partially fits into this category, since it is objectively worse than the Sian and Centenario whilst following a similar performance map, but I believe that the FXX K can hold its own in Multiplayer and TLEs fairly well. A lot of the best players in Gauntlet, pre-LVN and pre-Divo, have used combinations consisting of the Centenario, Jesko, Sian, FXX K and 600LT. So, it's clear that those cars are insane together in Gauntlet mode. The McLaren Senna and McLaren Speedtail (which, as far as I can tell, are almost identical performance-wise) are both also really useful cars for TLEs, Multiplayer, Gauntlet, etc. They're not as good as the Centenario and Sian purely in terms of acceleration, but otherwise, they have really well-rounded stats, especially with an emphasis on handling. The 488 Pista, Huayra BC, Agera RS... these are all decent cars as well. Anyway, I have actually been using the LVN, and I have found some situations where it is the most useful car in my lineup, pretty much always as a starter car on tracks that require the Centenario later on. The Divo also occupies a similar role to the LVN in this sense, as a situational starter car. In fact, the LVN hasn't completely replaced the Divo, and there are still various tracks where I consider the Divo to be superior for the role. Still, the LVN has found its niche in some tracks. For example, the LVN is the best starter car in my (very extensive) Garage for Nevada Reverse and Ipanema Showdown (Rio de Janeiro). On the other hand, the Divo is the best starter car that I have for Route 375-1 (Area 51) and Iceland (forward). The LVN and Divo have very different styles of handling and drifting, both with very different capabilities depending on the terrain, so that is why they are useful in different situations. The LVN doesn't skid on sidewalks at all, due to being extremely heavy (which is what makes it so good for Ipanema Showdown, specifically). On the other hand, the Divo is much better at drifting, which allows it to take the lead in Iceland and Route 375-1, two tracks where you pretty much have to drift immediately at the start of the race whilst simultaneously accelerating to your full speed from a standstill. The Senna remains essential to my Gauntlet lineup on many tracks, as a filler car. The 488 Pista and Huayra BC, which have been parts of my Gauntlet lineup for a long time, are seeing much less use nowadays. Both cars were already hurt by my acquisition of the Divo, and it seems that the LVN is now the final nail in the coffin. Obviously, the Centenario and Jesko are featured in 100% of my Gauntlet races. Once I finish upgrading the McLaren Speedtail, I will probably never touch the 488 Pista or Huayra BC again. In terms of the Ferrari FXX K, which I've been gradually upgrading over several months, it actually isn't killer, due to its lack of nitro efficiency. But the Sian is... I own it, yet I've barely upgraded it. I chose to upgrade the FXX K instead of the Sian because I prefer the looks of the FXX K. So, it will be a long time before I finish the Sian. End of comment, MMS
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jul 15, 2021 11:54:29 GMT
The Aston Martin Valhalla is truly useless, though. Meanwhile, both the Aspark Owl and Bugatti Chiron were okay for a while, before the arrivals of the Divo and LVN. Those two cars are decent if you've got nothing else, but they're otherwise not the best options available. Meanwhile, the Mazzanti Evantra Millecavalli has almost nothing going for it apart from handling; again, it's decent if you've got nothing else, but there are many other cars that are more useful overall. But yes, the Aston Martin Valhalla takes the cake as the most useless piece of junk Festival car ever added to the S1860 ranks. I've never found any opportunities to use this car, none at all. It cannot do anything. It's by far the worst Festival car in the game, based on its usage relative to its rank. The Valhalla has questionable performance in every category. It mainly falls behind due to its poor nitro efficiency, but it also has subpar acceleration, subpar drifting, weird handling (though, not as wide as the Divo's or LVN's), and slightly sub-optimal speed. The reason I acquired the Valhalla was that I thought the car looked nice, plus I like the Aston Martin brand (and I never acquired the Aston Martin Vulcan). With that being said, I've come to realise that acquiring and upgrading cars just because they look nice is too expensive, so I've passed up a handful of cars since the Valhalla. Still, I've acquired some of the more useful additions, such as the LVN and Agera RS.
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Jul 15, 2021 12:53:16 GMT
The Sian is also very useful as a clone of the Centenario. can't say this, the Sian is an excellent and competitive car, but definitely not a Cent clone, though the stats are very close, it's actually a whole different drive with a very different feel
I'll compare the Sian more to a well improved SV than a Cent clone actually
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jul 15, 2021 13:37:22 GMT
The Sian is also very useful as a clone of the Centenario. can't say this, the Sian is an excellent and competitive car, but definitely not a Cent clone, though the stats are very close, it's actually a whole different drive with a very different feel
I'll compare the Sian more to a well improved SV than a Cent clone actually wink
The Centenario is slightly better overall, but I've seen the Sian dominating certain tracks in the daily TLE leaderboards, so it must have some ability that the Centenario lacks. From what I know, as a player who owns a near-stock Sian, I think the Sian is much more stable than the Centenario, which comes at the cost of being less precise and manoeuvrable. The Sian also objectively has slightly worse nitro efficiency. In terms of acceleration, I think the two cars are really close together in that performance aspect. The Centenario has better drifting than the Sian, for sure, though the Centenario is one of those cars that can tend to over-drift, so the Sian's drifting capabilities are good enough for most situations. In terms of speed, the two cars are close enough together that the difference is negligible; the Centenario does have a lower raw top speed, though, which might come into play. The Sian is slightly worse than the Centenario, but for the purposes of this list, it is grouped together, because it's still decisively better than every other car in the "Tier 2" section of this list. It could be said (in an analogy) that the Centenario and Sian are twins, but the Centenario was born 10 minutes earlier, so it's technically older. The Lamborghini Aventador SV has been placed rather low in my list, at Tier 4. I'm not sure if it really should be there... One major reason it's down there is that it lacks level 3 nitro efficiency. It also doesn't have as good handling and drifting as the higher-tiered cars, though it's not terrible in these areas. Off topic: The A1770 buff to the Lamborghini Veneno is one of the best things that has happened in Asphalt 8's recent history. Too bad that the AR8SE got ripped to shreds at the same time... (I mean this sincerely...) The Veneno was one of my brother's favourite cars in this game, and he also relied on the AR8SE quite a bit, but he quit the game shortly after acquiring the AR8SE with an MP-tune, whereas I myself didn't acquire the AR8SE from its R&D, so I never really got sick of this game. My brother will be very pleased to see the new performance of the Veneno. The handling, drifting and nitro efficiency aren't the best, but it's just so cool to drive a once-common but always-beautiful car, one of the originals and always legendary, with 2.7 seconds of launch acceleration, which is competitive enough for the A1770 rank. (Though, my brother will probably faint from seeing all of the other insane changes that have happened between mid-2018 and now.) I've been racing in Master Season in Elite League with the triple-boosted Veneno, and I've been doing relatively well.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Jul 15, 2021 14:12:52 GMT
I've noticed a strange pattern. The current spam rank brackets in Asphalt 8's vehicle list are: - S1860 --> Centenario, Jesko, Sian, Divo, etc.
- A1770 --> Beast Alpha, Veyron, Veneno, MP4-25, etc.
- B1680 --> NSX Evo, Clubsport, M4 GTS, LaFerrari, etc.
- B1590 --> 911 GT3 RS, 599XX Evo, Drako GTE, Formula E. (with the Peugeot SR1)
- C1500 --> F50, Panamera, Cayman. (with the Trezor, Torq, Twin Mill, etc.)
- C1410 --> X-Bow GTX, Boxster, Hommage, Taycan. (with the Bone Shaker, Evoque, etc.)
- D1320 --> SLK SE. (with the Juke, Rip Rod and Giulietta)
- D1230 --> Furai, Corvette C3, AR8SE, 959, etc.
The 1590 bracket has received little attention, but it definitely exists. The 1500 and 1410 rank brackets have only recently begun to take shape. And the 1320 rank bracket has only just been established with the recent rebalancing of the SLK SE to D1322. There are also some other ranks where Festival cars and rebalanced cars are located: - S1812 - Koenigsegg One:1
- S1805 - Lamborghini Terzo Millennio
- B1654 to B1660 - McLaren MP4/8 and Jaguar XKR-S GT
- C1543 to C1554 - Morgan Aero GT and Volkswagen I.D. R
- D1342 to D1344 - Chrysler Firepower, DS E-Tense and Italdesign DaVinci
- D1299 - Lotus Elise Cup 260
- D1198 - Ford F-150
Anyway, the interesting thing about the main rank brackets that I listed is that they all have a distance between one another of ninety rank points.
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Jul 15, 2021 16:48:59 GMT
yep that's right the Veneno is now very competitive and a much better drive than the Veyron, for comparison
regarding the grouping by rank, I suspect GL's future plan to eliminate anything competitive in between those ranks, and adopt a new Class system dividing MP in those categories only,
a mix of what we have now in Classic season when you are forced to climb class by class and Speed Trial... this is only a presumption but that's what I see coming next
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Post by FRM-aWAre-brIDge-ITA on Aug 13, 2021 11:57:37 GMT
and this last one for S class
I'm not 100% sure but thinks all credits for these tables must go to Edress, he's been the first to publish them as far a I can remember
The acceleration information seems to be completely accurate in this chart, though the nitro efficiency values, whilst mostly accurate, don't display the minute differences (e.g. a car with "11" perfect nitro might have slightly better nitro efficiency than another car with "11" perfect nitro). The wall-reach stats seem to be completely accurate. The information in this chart that is new to me includes: - The Renault Sport R.S. 01 accelerates to its full speed in less than 2.6 seconds (faster than the Senna!?!!?! also, faster than the Mazzanti Evantra Millecavalli and McLaren 600LT)
- The Rimac C_Two accelerates to its full speed in less than 2.35 seconds (seriously? what!?!?)
- The Koenigsegg Regera accelerates to its full speed in a little over 2.7 seconds (some people were claiming that it had 2.8 to 3.0-sec acceleration)
- The McLaren 600LT takes a whopping 2.9 seconds to accelerate to its full speed (this is REALLY bad, compared to other high-end Class S cars)
- The Sian accelerates slightly faster than the Centenario, or more or less at the same speed; previously, it seemed from YouTube videos that the Sian had slower acceleration, though I always noticed that they started off the line very quickly in Multiplayer
- The FXX K accelerates in around 2.5 seconds; this information had been estimated by me, though never confirmed up until now
- The Agera RS accelerates in a little under 2.7 seconds; this information had not been confirmed by me earlier, though I suspected that its acceleration sat between 2.55 and 2.75 seconds (the standard "Senna-esque" range)
- The Tomahawk has 8/10/12 nitro efficiency; I knew its efficiency was very good, though I hadn't tested it 100% precisely (I did test it roughly)
- I've also learnt of the Torino's acceleration, at just under 2.6 seconds, though this isn't surprising to me; this is exactly the same as the Ferrari 488 Pista... good, but not remarkable
- I've also learnt of the Devel's precise acceleration, at around 2.36 seconds... again, not surprising, though it's good to know the (roughly) exact number
Note: The BXR Bailey Blade GT1 Special Edition, which is missing from this list, has an acceleration stat only slightly worse than the McLaren Senna's, at 2.623 seconds, from my own testing. It also reaches the wall at roughly the same speed as the Senna, in 6.616 seconds, according to my own testing.
Ronan🌻 , despite someone could disagree with your analysis, you deserve to enter in the content creators program. Good luck with this.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 13, 2021 12:15:39 GMT
The acceleration information seems to be completely accurate in this chart, though the nitro efficiency values, whilst mostly accurate, don't display the minute differences (e.g. a car with "11" perfect nitro might have slightly better nitro efficiency than another car with "11" perfect nitro). The wall-reach stats seem to be completely accurate. The information in this chart that is new to me includes: - The Renault Sport R.S. 01 accelerates to its full speed in less than 2.6 seconds (faster than the Senna!?!!?! also, faster than the Mazzanti Evantra Millecavalli and McLaren 600LT)
- The Rimac C_Two accelerates to its full speed in less than 2.35 seconds (seriously? what!?!?)
- The Koenigsegg Regera accelerates to its full speed in a little over 2.7 seconds (some people were claiming that it had 2.8 to 3.0-sec acceleration)
- The McLaren 600LT takes a whopping 2.9 seconds to accelerate to its full speed (this is REALLY bad, compared to other high-end Class S cars)
- The Sian accelerates slightly faster than the Centenario, or more or less at the same speed; previously, it seemed from YouTube videos that the Sian had slower acceleration, though I always noticed that they started off the line very quickly in Multiplayer
- The FXX K accelerates in around 2.5 seconds; this information had been estimated by me, though never confirmed up until now
- The Agera RS accelerates in a little under 2.7 seconds; this information had not been confirmed by me earlier, though I suspected that its acceleration sat between 2.55 and 2.75 seconds (the standard "Senna-esque" range)
- The Tomahawk has 8/10/12 nitro efficiency; I knew its efficiency was very good, though I hadn't tested it 100% precisely (I did test it roughly)
- I've also learnt of the Torino's acceleration, at just under 2.6 seconds, though this isn't surprising to me; this is exactly the same as the Ferrari 488 Pista... good, but not remarkable
- I've also learnt of the Devel's precise acceleration, at around 2.36 seconds... again, not surprising, though it's good to know the (roughly) exact number
Note: The BXR Bailey Blade GT1 Special Edition, which is missing from this list, has an acceleration stat only slightly worse than the McLaren Senna's, at 2.623 seconds, from my own testing. It also reaches the wall at roughly the same speed as the Senna, in 6.616 seconds, according to my own testing.
Ronan🌻 , despite someone could disagree with your analysis, you deserve to enter in the content creators program. Good luck with this. I appreciate the sentiment, but I am already a moderator here, not to be affiliated with Shameloft. wink
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Post by FRM-aWAre-brIDge-ITA on Aug 13, 2021 18:40:40 GMT
Ronan🌻 , despite someone could disagree with your analysis, you deserve to enter in the content creators program. Good luck with this. I appreciate the sentiment, but I am already a moderator here, not to be affiliated with Shameloft. Altought you deserve that money much more than many out there, let's hope justice triumphs after all.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 16, 2021 6:47:30 GMT
McLaren Senna vs McLaren Speedtail [S7 Venice Ghost Race]
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 18, 2021 13:36:39 GMT
I appreciate the sentiment, but I am already a moderator here, not to be affiliated with Shameloft. Altought you deserve that money much more than many out there, let's hope justice triumphs after all. money ?
GL is not paying anyone other than his regular employees with real money
"content creators" are basically YTubers doing CMs job for free.... 😆 the only money these "content creators" can get is by monetizing they video channel, so this will be YouTube money ! and by the way, GL always did their best to mislead their players with fake stats, no sense information that can't be trusted...
making something like the Wikia GL's worst nightmare for a while ! 😂
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 18, 2021 13:39:33 GMT
@ronan someone from Disco updated the comparative S table with recent cars
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 18, 2021 18:48:34 GMT
WⓄⓄpsy - The Arash AF10 should be ULTIMATE @1859. It has the wrong designations on the table.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 18, 2021 18:52:58 GMT
WⓄⓄpsy - The acceleration stats for the Millecavalli, Valhalla, AF10, Aventador SV, Pista, Blade SE, Huayra BC, Chiron, Tomahawk and Jesko don't match my own measurements: - Millecavalli = 2.672s | they had 2.656s
- Valhalla = 2.672s | they had 2.705s
- AF10 = 2.920s | they had 2.953s
- Aventador SV = 2.557s | they had 2.573s
- Pista = 2.573s | they had 2.590s
- Blade SE = 2.623s | they had 2.639s
- Huayra BC = 2.722s | they had 2.738s
- Chiron = 2.408s | they had 2.425s
- Tomahawk = 2.359s | they had 2.342s
- Jesko = 2.870s | they had 2.887s
EDIT: Added more cars.
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