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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 18, 2021 19:10:00 GMT
WⓄⓄpsy - Yes, the Speedtail does have very fast acceleration, though I've never measured it before. In the video that I posted above, you can clearly see the Speedtail accelerating faster than the Senna by a significant margin. I've never used the Speedtail as my starter car in Gauntlet primarily since either the Divo or Centenario is usually a better option. The Divo has better acceleration in open areas, whereas the Centenario has better acceleration in tight spaces. But the Speedtail is almost as good as them both. More comments 1: Theoretically, the Speedtail might actually be equal to the Sian, which might make it a Tier 1 car, next to the Centenario and Jesko. Though, I think it suffers some minor problems from handling and drifting. It's not as bad as the Bugattis in these areas, though. The Speedtail has been very useful for long tracks like Iceland Reverse... last season, I repeatedly smashed this one player, raremalt, on that track throughout the season. Their time was not that bad, but I kept beating them by a small margin with the setup, "Centenario, Senna, Speedtail, Jesko, Divo/LVN". They were using the setup, "Sian, Centenario, Jesko, FXX K, Regera". I lost to them several times (but quit before the race ended) whenever I was lagging, but in non-laggy gameplay, I could reliably beat them. More comments 2: The Speedtail also has very good nitro efficiency, better than the Senna and closer to the Centenario. So, it's got killer acceleration, killer nitro efficiency, good speed (though not killer), and it has reasonably good handling and drifting albeit not the best. Overall, it is basically a king-tier car, better than the Senna, FXX K, 600LT, you name it. I think it even has better nitro efficiency than the Sian, which is somewhat shocking, though the Sian actually has nitro efficiency that is between the Senna and Centenario rather than at the same level as the Centenario. But the Speedtail is still definitely worse than both the Centenario and the Jesko overall. This probably makes the Speedtail the third or fourth-best car in the game, depending on whether the Sian is better or not. I'll find out soon enough, once I finish upgrading the Sian. I want to know how the Sian handles and drifts at full-PRO. That will be the deciding factor. More comments 3: The Senna is better than the 600LT and FXX K, so that probably makes it the fifth-best car in the game, after the Speedtail and Sian. NOTE: The above two comments disregard the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+, whose performance I am unfamiliar with. More comments 4: The Speedtail and Senna are both better than the La Voiture Noire and Divo for all-purpose usage. However, the La Voiture Noire and Divo are better in open areas of tracks in Gauntlet mode. I use all four cars frequently in Gauntlet mode. The usage levels are: - Centenario in 100% of Gauntlet races
- Jesko in 100% of Gauntlet races
- Senna in 95% of Gauntlet races
- La Voiture Noire in 50% of Gauntlet races
- Speedtail in 25% of Gauntlet races
- Divo in 15% of Gauntlet races
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 18, 2021 19:15:49 GMT
I have recently Proed out the Ferrari FXX K. I'm finding that it has really light and bouncy handling, as well as good acceleration, but it has slightly subpar nitro efficiency. I think the Speedtail and Senna are both better than it.
Note: Obviously, the FXX K accelerates more quickly than the Senna, but apart from that one statistic, the Senna is better. The Senna has better handling, drifting and nitro efficiency, and the two cars have identical speed. So, basically, the FXX K gets the lead at the start, but the Senna has the advantage all throughout the rest of the race. Also, in Gauntlet, the Senna is more useful than the FXX K as a secondary car, not that the FXX K isn't useful as well.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 18, 2021 19:24:13 GMT
Comments on Handling As I am steadily upgrading more and more cars, I'm finding that the McLaren Senna still has the best combination of handling and drifting among almost all high-end Class S vehicles except for one car... the Apollo Intensa Emozione. Apart from the Intensa, the Senna has a slightly better handling+drifting model than all of the following cars that are also known to have relatively good handling+drifting models: - Centenario --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna, but traction is excellent. Drifting is superb.
- Jesko --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna, but traction is excellent. Drifting is good, though worse than the Centenario.
- Sian --> Not sure exactly how it handles, but it seems similar to the FXX K.
- FXX K --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna. Drifting is good, though worse than the Centenario.
- Agera RS --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna. Drifting is good, though worse than the Centenario.
- Pista --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna, traction is excellent. Drifting is good, though worse than the Centenario.
- Huayra BC --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna, traction is excellent. Drifting is mediocre.
- Millecavalli --> Steering radius is slightly weaker than the Senna, traction is good. Drifting is mediocre.
- Blade SE --> Steering radius is significantly weaker than the Senna, traction is strange. Drifting is very good but also strange.
- Speedtail --> Steering radius is significantly weaker than the Senna, traction is good. Drifting is good, though worse than the Centenario.
- Aventador SV --> Steering radius is significantly weaker than the Senna, traction is very good. Drifting is mediocre.
- Regera --> Not sure exactly how it handles, but it seems decent albeit not great. It might be similar to the Huayra BC or Aventador SV.
- Valhalla --> Steering radius is significantly weaker than the Senna, traction is mediocre. Drifting is mediocre.
- X2 --> It used to have alien handling, but its handling was nerfed in the 2021 Spring Update. Drifting is terrible. Skids a lot.
Three other cars in high-end Class S can hold a candle to the Senna in handling+drifting: - 600LT --> It seems to have very good handling, though I don't own it.
- R.S. 01 --> It has very good traction on the road; e.g. it is very reliable for breezing through the slanted road on The Great Wall, which sometimes trips up other cars, including the Senna.
- MP4-31 --> It has extremely good handling and good drifting, but it is highly unstable.
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Post by FRM-aWAre-brIDge-ITA on Aug 18, 2021 22:20:28 GMT
Altought you deserve that money much more than many out there, let's hope justice triumphs after all. money ?
GL is not paying anyone other than his regular employees with real money
"content creators" are basically YTubers doing CMs job for free.... 😆 the only money these "content creators" can get is by monetizing they video channel, so this will be YouTube money ! and by the way, GL always did their best to mislead their players with fake stats, no sense information that can't be trusted...
making something like the Wikia GL's worst nightmare for a while ! 😂
And this means that a boy from college that is giving correct and torough information from direct proof, deserves more than many employees and youtubers have. But after all, even if in a different way, this could be applied to many forum members here and in a few other places, as you pointed out. See you WⓄⓄpsy , hope you don't take me as an asshole, I'm only trying to keep alive the forum somehow.
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 18, 2021 23:16:31 GMT
@awarbridge5097 you make me really embarrassed with your last sentence... 😳 I don't get what makes you say such thing and I don't know what to reply to this 😐
you're welcome anytime 🍺
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 18, 2021 23:32:23 GMT
. - Regera --> Not sure exactly how it handles, but it seems decent albeit not great. It might be similar to the Huayra BC or Aventador SV.
like a big fat cow ! feels really heavy when entering curves and drift is much wider than Jesko, wider than Agera RS, but it's also a very stable car all around,
I would compare it more likely to a fat ASV, for me HBC feels very light and squirrelly
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Post by chauhan739 on Aug 19, 2021 2:23:49 GMT
Ronan🌻 just added a heading in one of your posts above. Can you make that table of your own which WⓄⓄpsy had posted. I believe in your info more than anyone else even if that is wiki.
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 19, 2021 2:30:40 GMT
Ronan🌻 just added a heading in one of your posts above. Can you make that table of your own which WⓄⓄpsy had posted. I believe in your info more than anyone else even if that is wiki. Thanks for that. I own all of the cars whose handling I was commenting on except for the 600LT, and the only ones that aren't MAX+PRO are the Sian and Regera (and 600LT). Btw, I also own the Rimac C_Two with high upgrades... its handling is surprisingly not that bad, but it's also pretty fat and probably just as heavy as the Regera. I think the C_Two and Regera surely have slightly better handling than the Arash AF10, though. More comments: The TORINO DESIGN Super Sport also has good handling and drifting, though mine is barely upgraded. Actually, from testing it in MP cups, I rather like its handling and drifting. It seems to be one of the better ones.
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Post by FRM-aWAre-brIDge-ITA on Aug 19, 2021 6:04:13 GMT
@awarbridge5097 you make me really embarrassed with your last sentence... 😳 I don't get what makes you say such thing and I don't know what to reply to this 😐
you're welcome anytime 🍺 Thank you WⓄⓄpsy, is only about the fact that I'm scared of being considered as a troll. I'm very happy you don't think to me as a problem, I love this place and hope it stands for a long time. As we have already seen, we are fragile for a number of reasons and every care must be taken for good relationships. If you look at members board and order it by the last connection time, you can see that there are many of us that don't connect from weeks ago, and this is very sad. If those people have simply stopped playing, this is normal given the present situation, but some of them could have simply decided to stay away. Let's hope they find the way home. I wish for you a great life and great races .
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 20, 2021 13:46:11 GMT
chauhan739 - Due to the ongoing MP cup, I've had the pleasure of testing out the handling performances of all high-end Class S cars at MAX+PRO or full-PRO or ULTIMATE or whatever. Some comments: - The McLaren 600LT has worse handling than the McLaren Senna, presumably by a small margin. Obviously, I've not been able to test it out excessively or on other tracks beside Sector 8, but I can immediately tell that it is worse. The 600LT's drifting is acceptably good.
- The Bugatti Centodieci has similar handling to the Bugatti Divo, with moderately bad handling and good drifting. I suspect that it actually has worse overall handling+drifting than the Divo since it feels heavier and it has a wider drifting radius. In fact, the Divo has very good drifting, despite its comparatively poor handling.
- The Bugatti Chiron Supersport 300+ handles like a tank. It has one of the worst handling performances in high-end Class S, perhaps as bad as the Devel Sixteen Prototype, and its drifting is horrendous.
- The Bugatti Chiron Sport 110 Ans handles similarly to the Bugatti Chiron classic edition; in fact, I'd say that it is actually slightly worse. It is heavier than the Chiron and has wider drifting, I think. This shouldn't be surprising since the Chiron Sport's displayed-handling statistic is noticeably worse than the classic Chiron's.
- The Devel Sixteen Prototype has a terrible steering radius, but it actually has fairly good traction on the ground, reminiscent of an extremely fat Centenario. It has bad drifting, for sure, though I haven't been able to properly test out exactly how bad. It think it could be one of the worse drifters in high-end Class S.
- The Koenigsegg Regera has relatively good handling, not as bad as WⓄⓄpsy 's description. It handles only slightly worse than the 600LT, in comparison to all of the other tanks that I've tried out just now. However, the Regera does have noticeably wide drifting for a relatively good-handling car, so this is a major downside in comparison to the best cars in high-end Class S. Obviously, the Regera's drifting is not extremely wide, but it is certainly not competitive enough.
- The Koenigsegg Gemera has similar handling and drifting to the Bugatti Divo. I think the Bugatti Divo has slightly better drifting than the Gemera, though the Gemera might handle slightly better due to its smaller size and the ease of micro-drifting in comparison to the fatter Divo.
- The Torino Design Super Sport has one of the best handling+drifting models among Class S vehicles. It is slightly worse than the Senna and approximately closer to the 600LT, Pista and Huayra BC.
- The Lamborghini Sian has significantly worse handling and drifting than the Lamborghini Centenario. It does not exactly feel like a Tier 1 car on Sector 8, where handling and drifting are major factors. It might belong in Tier 2. In fact, I think the McLaren Speedtail might be better than the Lamborghini Sian, which is a bold claim, but I'm going to have a full-PRO Sian within less than a month, so I'll be able to compare the two cars more closely at that point. The Speedtail is looking to be the third-best car in the game, at this point in time.
- The Rimac C_Two handles similarly to the Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ and Devel Sixteen Prototype, with a fat frame, poor steering capacity, heaviness, and bad drifting. It has better handling when it has lower upgrades; my C_Two has 5555-3333 upgrades, and it has better handling and drifting in this state than it does at MAX+PRO.
In conclusion, all of these cars listed above have underwhelming handling and drifting. None of them has really managed to dethrone another car. For some of them, I even had high expectations that they did not fulfil.
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 20, 2021 17:54:58 GMT
- The Koenigsegg Regera has relatively good handling, not as bad as WⓄⓄpsy 's description. It handles only slightly worse than the 600LT, in comparison to all of the other tanks that I've tried out just now. However, the Regera does have noticeably wide drifting for a relatively good-handling car, so this is a major downside in comparison to the best cars in high-end Class S. Obviously, the Regera's drifting is not extremely wide, but it is certainly not competitive enough.
my comment on Regera above was taking Jesko for comparison !
it sure isn't as bad as any Boatgaytti or the infamous C2 and Owl...
still, very deceiving for a car ranked at 1862
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Post by oldman65 on Aug 20, 2021 20:37:48 GMT
I’ve been using the Rimac C2 in the MP TLE Cup and while I agree the handling is poor, the drifting seems reasonable. (at least using tilt-to-steer on an iPhone) Maybe it is worse using keyboard or controllers. Seems on par with the FXX K.
But the handling is not the main reason for my post. What I’d like to point out is that this thing accelerates like nobody’s business. I consistently pass all the other cars off the line in most every race. Maybe it is just luck, but I’m often shooting out in front of other cars. Also, recovers quickly using that acc. And NE seems good.
Still not a top tier (or maybe not even tier 2) but still looks like it could be great as a first car in Gauntlet if the track isn’t something like Mosaic Motorway or Mount Teide with twists and turns right at the start…
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Post by WⓄⓄpsy on Aug 20, 2021 21:26:42 GMT
oldman65 yes, C2 is particularly OP on this track because of the bumps right after the start line where it stays very low and recover top speed like none other else it can also take the last spiral corner in a very decent way compared to all other "boat" cars
one sure thing I can tell you is I hate this car in 90% of any other tracks and situtations
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Post by oldman65 on Aug 20, 2021 21:35:04 GMT
oldman65 yes, C2 is particularly OP on this track because of the bumps right after the start line where it stays very low and recover top speed like none other else it can also take the last spiral corner in a very decent way compared to all other "boat" cars
one sure thing I can tell you is I hate this car in 90% of any other tracks and situtations :D
🤣 Fair enough. I don’t own it; so, don’t have a way to try it on other tracks. Thx for the info. 👍
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Post by Ronan🌻 on Aug 22, 2021 4:53:00 GMT
Ꮆσℓ∂iε☮️🐾🐕 - Hi, I see that you use the BXR Bailey Blade GT1 SE. I'd like to know your opinion on its handling? I also have this car, but I want a second opinion. Thanks.
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